{"id":3837,"date":"2009-12-09T00:00:58","date_gmt":"2009-12-09T04:00:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/shilohwalker.wordpress.com\/?p=3837"},"modified":"2009-12-09T00:00:58","modified_gmt":"2009-12-09T04:00:58","slug":"self-publishing-vs-assisted-self-publishingvanity-press","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/2009\/12\/self-publishing-vs-assisted-self-publishingvanity-press\/","title":{"rendered":"Self-publishing vs. &quot;Assisted&quot; Self Publishing\/Vanity Press"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Everybody, please bear in mind, I&#8217;m no self-publishing expert.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not too educated on it, and that&#8217;s fine with me because self publishing looks like a hell of a lot of work.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to self publish, be prepared to do that hell of a lot of work.<\/p>\n<p>Or, you can spent a lot more money for &#8216;assisted&#8217; self publishing and have to split the profits.\u00a0 Since you&#8217;re fronting a lot of money, and since the majority of &#8216;assisted&#8217; self pubs\/vanity press books don&#8217;t tend to sell a lot&#8230;well, I&#8217;m thinking you&#8217;ll be better off if you do the work yourself, if you&#8217;re determined to go the self-publishing route.<\/p>\n<p>One thing that seems to be in agreement is that in TRUE self publishing, YOU, the author, owns the ISBN. I use &#8216;agreement&#8217; lightly because vanity publishers will tell you differently, as will likely most &#8216;assisted&#8217; self-publishers.\u00a0 But poke around, check out sites like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfwa.org\/for-authors\/writer-beware\/\" target=\"_blank\">Writer Beware.<\/a> Do <em>not<\/em> just go by what you&#8217;re told on whatever site you&#8217;re visiting. \u00a0 The ISBN is that long number you see on the back of a paperback.<\/p>\n<p>If you want to sell a book, you need an ISBN.\u00a0 It&#8217;s what identifies your book, how booksellers order the book.\u00a0 If YOU buy the ISBN, YOU own it.\u00a0 If a vanity press or &#8216;assisted&#8217; self publisher owns the ISBN?\u00a0 You&#8217;re not self publishing.<\/p>\n<p>One handy site I found while I was poking around the net is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.selfpublishing.com\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/www.selfpublishing.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Now this is NOT an endorsement of their services.\u00a0 At all. I&#8217;ve never used them, I&#8217;ve never talked to anybody who has used them.\u00a0 But there&#8217;s some handy info on the site, <em>including<\/em>&#8230; an instant quote for their editorial services.\u00a0 One thing that was really killing me over the DellArte Press\/Harlequin Horizons site was the cost they wanted to charge for their editorial services.\u00a0 People might not think that $0.035\/word is a lot of money, but we&#8217;re talking a lot of words.\u00a0 Category length books are around 55000.\u00a0 Most mass markets are around 90000+.\u00a0 So we&#8217;re not talking cents here.\u00a0 We&#8217;re talking dollars.\u00a0 A lot of them.\u00a0 Into the thousands.<\/p>\n<p>You <em>cannot<\/em> skip editorial services.\u00a0 You need them.\u00a0 You can always hire a freelance editor and that may well be cheaper, but don&#8217;t skip the step, not if you&#8217;re serious about putting out a successful book, and don&#8217;t think having a few friends read it over will suffice.\u00a0 Unless of course your friends are professional editors&#8230;\u00a0 ;o)<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, here are some numbers.\u00a0 For a &#8216;mechanical&#8217; edit&#8230;basically looking for typos\/wrong words ie:\u00a0 die instead of did, mange instead of manage, etc, etc.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>At <a href=\"http:\/\/www.selfpublishing.com\/editorial\/copy-editing\/mechanical.php\" target=\"_blank\">Self Publishing, Inc<\/a>&#8230; this will run you $0.014 per word.<\/li>\n<li>At DellArte, it will run you more than double, at $0.035 per Word<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So for a 90,000 (about standard length of the typical mass market-NOT series), you could either pay $1260.00 with Self Publishing, Inc&#8230; or you could pay an &#8216;assisted self publishing&#8217; like DellArte $3150.  Disclaimer, I&#8217;m not a math whiz.  If the figures are wrong, I apologize.  But I really do like the instant price quote feature that Self Publishing, Inc uses.  Nice and transparent about the costs.<\/p>\n<p>Now a line edit isn&#8217;t enough.\u00a0 You really do need the content edited-is the story cohesive, is it consistent, is the story &#8216;organized&#8217;, etc.\u00a0 You can get more comprehensive edits from both of the sites I&#8217;m looking at today.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>At <a href=\"http:\/\/www.selfpublishing.com\/editorial\/copy-editing\/comprehensive.php\" target=\"_blank\">Self Publishing, Inc<\/a>, a book of 90000 words can get the comprehensive edit, which includes the mechanical edit and the more involved edits, for $0.035 a word.\u00a0 It will run you $3150.\u00a0 (Oddly enough, that&#8217;s how much just a basic line edit will run from DelArte.)<\/li>\n<li>At DellArte, that same service will cost you more than double, at $0.077 a word.  Total cost? $6930.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>So you can see that shopping around some could certainly save some cash.<\/p>\n<p>Another thing that DellArte is pushing is their marketing services.\u00a0 Websites.\u00a0 Email campaigns.<\/p>\n<p>A website is crucial.\u00a0 They can set one up for you for $479.\u00a0 (Hosting will run you $30 a month-check out godaddy&#8230; you can get the same for a fraction).<\/p>\n<p>So $479 initial and $360 a year to maintain the site.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a better idea, in my opinion&#8230;you can come here to wordpress.com and get a blog.\u00a0 You can set up &#8216;static&#8217; pages, which won&#8217;t change like a typical blog does.\u00a0 See the tabs at the top of my blog?\u00a0 Static pages.\u00a0 I believe you can even set up a static page to be the &#8216;entry&#8217; page to your blog.\u00a0 Cost?\u00a0 Zero.\u00a0 Zilch.\u00a0 WordPress will track your visitors, where they came from, give you stats.\u00a0 Definitely a better deal than the $479 + $360\/yearly.<\/p>\n<p>What about social media?<\/p>\n<p>Dellarte offers a social media set up package.\u00a0 It includes:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A wordpress blog.<\/li>\n<li>A facebook profile<\/li>\n<li>A facebook page for your book<\/li>\n<li>A myspace page for your book<\/li>\n<li>Adding flickr to your social network<\/li>\n<li>A FeedBurner account to get your blog posts out across the net<\/li>\n<li>Set you up on Shelfari, Goodreads, Librarything<\/li>\n<li>Twitter<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The cost?\u00a0 $959.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the deal&#8230; wordpress, facebook, myspace, shelfari, goodreads, librarything and twitter are FREE.\u00a0 I have them all&#8230;well, maybe not librarything, but other than that?\u00a0 All.\u00a0 Cost me nothing but time.\u00a0 And even if you pay somebody to do the set up, you&#8217;ll still need to invest the time because these only benefit the people who are actually active on the various platforms.<\/p>\n<p>Basically, this assisted self publishing thing looks to me like a way to get double the money for the same services offered by self publishing companies, prettied up with a lot of spin and flashy talk, with a little more polish added by offering &#8216;marketing&#8217; services that you can get for free (like blogs) or a heck of a lot cheaper elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>If you really want to wade into the self publishing world, just do your homework.\u00a0 Research. Call the companies and see what they have to tell you.<\/p>\n<p>And speaking of calling the companies?\u00a0 If they tell you such-and-such big name author got their start in self publishing?\u00a0 That right there should be a warning.\u00a0 The names commonly tossed out when people are talking self-publishing wonders?\u00a0 Most of those big names didn&#8217;t start in self publishing.<\/p>\n<p>Names like JK Rowling, John Grisham and Christopher Paolini&#8230;not self published.\u00a0 Grisham&#8217;s book was picked up by a small traditional press that went out of business and he bought the remaindered quantities and handsold them.\u00a0 But he didn&#8217;t self publish.\u00a0 JK Rowling&#8217;s first Harry Potter book was published by Bloomsbury Children Books, and then by Scholastic here in the States.\u00a0 Paolini&#8217;s book ERAGON <em>was<\/em> published by his parents, but they owned a commercial press.\u00a0 You can argue that one either way.\u00a0 But there is a far cry from Joe Somebody sending his book to a self publisher and a kid with parents who already in the publishing business, who already knew how it worked.\u00a0 The above info about Grisham and Paolini was found at <a href=\"http:\/\/jimhines.livejournal.com\/313073.html\" target=\"_blank\">Jim C Hine&#8217;s blog<\/a>.\u00a0 The JK Rowling info came from her website.<\/p>\n<p>So there&#8217;s my take on it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Everybody, please bear in mind, I&#8217;m no self-publishing expert.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not too educated on it, and that&#8217;s fine with me because self publishing looks like<a href=\"https:\/\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/2009\/12\/self-publishing-vs-assisted-self-publishingvanity-press\/\" class=\"more-link\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Self-publishing vs. &quot;Assisted&quot; 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