{"id":35180,"date":"2016-02-10T09:00:38","date_gmt":"2016-02-10T14:00:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/?p=35180"},"modified":"2016-02-09T22:11:28","modified_gmt":"2016-02-10T03:11:28","slug":"he-was-massive-65-250-at-least-protip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/2016\/02\/he-was-massive-65-250-at-least-protip\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;he was MASSIVE&#8230;6&#8217;5&#8230;230lbs AT LEAST&#8230; #protip"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Okay, so the nurse has had enough.<\/p>\n<p>I know body types. Screw me. Sue me. Whatever.<\/p>\n<p>Some of the\u00a0<em>best<\/em> writing advice I ever got didn&#8217;t come from a writer. It came from a reader who had a husband in the military. She told me&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>People don&#8217;t want to know\u00a0how\u00a0<em>the clock works. \u00a0They just want to know that it works.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So&#8230;what does this mean? It&#8217;s simple. Really. Don&#8217;t get too technical.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m reading\/listening to a book and it&#8217;s\u00a0<em>good<\/em>, but I keep having to quit because the main character is a doctor and I kid you not&#8230;every time the character takes a Tylenol, she calls it an &#8216;analgesic&#8217;. \u00a0<em>Nobody\u00a0<\/em>in medicine calls it an\u00a0<em>analgesic<\/em> when we take it. \u00a0To avoid copyright issues with Tylenol in writing, we might call it acetamenophen, or with Motrin, ibuprofen. With documentation, yes, we&#8217;ll use the generic name&#8230;again, acetamenophen or ibuprofen.<\/p>\n<p>But an\u00a0<em>analgesic<\/em>? No. I kid you not, I haven&#8217;t used that term used outside of educational learning since I was in nursing twenty years ago.<\/p>\n<p>If you get to technical or too indepth, you run the risk of throwing people out of the book.<\/p>\n<p>So&#8230;back to that&#8230;<em>he was <\/em>massive 6&#8217;5,<em> 230 lbs<\/em><em>, at least<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve read this description&#8211;or variations of&#8211;<em>so many times<\/em> and it\u00a0<em>always<\/em> throws me out of the story.<\/p>\n<p>Why?<\/p>\n<p>Well&#8230;because\u00a0<em>massive.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It makes me think of the Hulk. \u00a0As in Hulk Hogan who stands 6&#8217;7 and weighs 300lbs.<\/p>\n<p>It doesn&#8217;t really even make me think of Dwayne Johnson, unless we&#8217;re looking at his role as Hercules.\u00a0He&#8217;s 6&#8217;5 and while he&#8217;s <em>solid,\u00a0<\/em>he&#8217;s proportionate.\u00a0\u00a0Actors drop and gain weight for their roles although from what I can tell, when he was at his largest\/heaviest, it was for Hercules, when he weighed 260. See <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bodybuilding.com\/fun\/dwayne-johnson-rock-hard-hercules-workout-and-diet-plan.html?searchterm=dwayne%20j\" target=\"_blank\">bodybuilding.com<\/a><\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 550px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bodybuilding.com\/fun\/dwayne-johnson-rock-hard-hercules-workout-and-diet-plan.html?searchterm=dwayne%20j\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bodybuilding.com\/images\/2015\/november\/dwayne-johnsons-rock-hard-hercules-workout_02.jpg?resize=550%2C245\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"245\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dwayne Johnson | Hercules<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Then we have Chris Hemsworth. Again solid, but proportionate. He packed on muscle for the role several times over.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 560px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bodybuilding.com\/fun\/race-god-to-norse-god-chris-hemsworth-thor-two-workout.html\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bodybuilding.com\/images\/2015\/november\/chris-hemsworth-thor-two-workout_01.jpg?resize=560%2C337\" alt=\"\" width=\"560\" height=\"337\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Thor | Image Bodybuilding.com<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Chris Hemsworth as Thor at 6&#8217;3, weighs in at 215. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bodybuilding.com\/fun\/race-god-to-norse-god-chris-hemsworth-thor-two-workout.html\" target=\"_blank\">see Bodybuilding.com<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Dwayne Johnson and Chris Hemsworth are\u00a0<em>solid<\/em> guys, muscular through and through, absolutely. The stats given are pretty representative of that body type. But do I seem them as\u00a0<em>massive<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>DJ on a regular basis\u00a0<em>might<\/em> fit the 6&#8217;5 250 cut off for what some call massive, but even at his largest (from what I can tell) in Hercules, he just topped at 260 and still managed to look more solid than\u00a0<em>massive<\/em>. This is the thing with stating outright numers and then a subjective statement&#8211;<em>massive<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Then again,\u00a0I&#8217;ve seen people on the scale who weight in 215&#8230;or 260&#8230;and are much shorter\u00a0<em>and\u00a0<\/em>larger. But it&#8217;s not muscle that&#8217;s carrying the weight. See, muscle weighs a lot. \u00a0So, it&#8217;s going to be heavy. So when a big guy &#8211;as in a muscled&#8211;weighs in at 250, 260 and stands some inches on over 6 foot, it&#8217;s believable. That&#8217;s why a guy like Michael Phelps can be well over six feet and weigh over 200 but still be\u00a0<em>skinny<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>And here is where writers mess up.<\/p>\n<p>If you try to get\u00a0<em>too\u00a0<\/em>specific?<\/p>\n<p>Those in the medical field (like me and oh, so&#8230;<em>a few million others<\/em>) you get us to figuring. \u00a0I start seeing things like in my head. \u00a0You call a six foot five guy muscled and you give him a weight without really understanding body types&#8211;and a lot of writers don&#8217;t get body types.<\/p>\n<p>This is what happens.<\/p>\n<p><em>He was six foot five and weighed well over two hundred pounds, built like a brick shithouse<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Ummm&#8230;.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_35181\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-35181\" style=\"width: 208px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.writeups.org\/fiche.php?id=5177\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-35181\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-35181 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/5177f-208x300.jpg?resize=208%2C300\" alt=\"Are we talking THIS\" width=\"208\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-35181\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Are we talking THIS |\u00a0Alain Bernard. 6&#8217;5, weighing in at 200?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Or<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_35182\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-35182\" style=\"width: 255px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-35182\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/5177g-255x300.jpg?resize=255%2C300\" alt=\"OR ARE WE TALKING THIS\" width=\"255\" height=\"300\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-35182\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">OR ARE WE TALKING THIS? Gabe Carimi, 6&#8217;7, weighing in at\u00a0<em>over 300<\/em>?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>What&#8217;s the difference, you might ask? Well, somebody who knows body type is going to get it. \u00a0It&#8217;s a few inches&#8230;and over a hundred pounds. The difference? Well, to start, one is a football player, the other is a swimmer. Swimmers are long, lean muscle. \u00a0The other guy plays football. Take a guess at which one.<\/p>\n<p>Alain Bernard is 6&#8217;5 and weighs 200 lbs. \u00a0Gabe Carimi is 6&#8217;7 and weighs 330.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d personally call Carimi\u00a0<em>massive<\/em>, but Bernard is closer in weight to what I&#8217;ve seen described in books on a regular basis.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s easy enough to see which one is which when you are looking.<\/p>\n<p>But when you spend half your life weighing people, of\u00a0<em>all<\/em> sizes, you get a decent feel for what is well&#8230;massive, whether it&#8217;s athletically massive or not.<\/p>\n<p>So&#8230;to all the writers all there, I&#8217;d like to offer the same advice I received. Readers don&#8217;t want to know <em>how\u00a0<\/em>the clock works. \u00a0They just want to know that it works. \u00a0Call him big. Give his height. Call him lean and muscled, or big and muscled or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>But if you&#8217;re going to peg his height <em>and\u00a0<\/em>his weight? Then I&#8217;d recommend you learn more about body types. Start by visiting this link&#8230;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.writeups.org\/fiche.php?id=5177\" target=\"_blank\">Writerups.org<\/a>, height and weight values for superheroes.<\/p>\n<p>Whether or not you\u00a0<em>are<\/em> writing a superhero. \u00a0If you are writing a solid guy, make sure he fits the definition of solid&#8230;not lean.<\/p>\n<p>Things like this make the reader pause, if she&#8217;s in the know. \u00a0And you&#8217;d be surprised how many of your readers are\u00a0<em>in the know<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Be it the medical field. The athletic field. Or even the &#8216;we pay attention to the WWE field or any other kind of field&#8217;. And when we see<\/p>\n<p><em>He was six foot five and weighed over two hundred pounds&#8230;AT LEAST&#8230;<\/em>we&#8217;re going to scratch our heads and wonder.<\/p>\n<p>Are you talking&#8230;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_35181\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-35181\" style=\"width: 208px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.writeups.org\/fiche.php?id=5177\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-35181\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-35181 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/5177f-208x300.jpg?resize=208%2C300\" alt=\"Are we talking THIS\" width=\"208\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-35181\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">THIS |\u00a0Alain Bernard<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_35182\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-35182\" style=\"width: 255px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.writeups.org\/fiche.php?id=5177\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-35182\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-35182\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/5177g-255x300.jpg?resize=255%2C300\" alt=\"OR ARE WE TALKING THIS\" width=\"255\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-35182\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">OR THIS?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Know your body types. 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