{"id":13154,"date":"2010-11-09T08:00:47","date_gmt":"2010-11-09T12:00:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/?p=13154"},"modified":"2010-11-09T07:23:04","modified_gmt":"2010-11-09T12:23:04","slug":"on-foreign-rights-foreign-sales-geographical-restrictions-and-authorial-control","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.shilohwalker.com\/website\/2010\/11\/on-foreign-rights-foreign-sales-geographical-restrictions-and-authorial-control\/","title":{"rendered":"On foreign rights, foreign sales, geographical restrictions and authorial control"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Although perhaps I should put <strong>lack of control<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of discussion lately about geographical restrictions and how frustrating it is to readers.<\/p>\n<p>Now-before I go <em>any<\/em> further, let me make a couple of things clear-I know it&#8217;s frustrating.\u00a0 It frustrates the hell out of me.\u00a0 With Ellora&#8217;s Cave and Samhain, there are no geographical restrictions and because of my epublishers, it let me build one hell of a reader base across the globe.\u00a0 I know I have a lot of international readers-it&#8217;s why I very, very rarely limit things contests to the US\/North America, etc.\u00a0 The readers who&#8217;ve supported me over the years are the reason I&#8217;m still able to do this and your location doesn&#8217;t matter-your <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">support<\/span> does.\u00a0 I know very well you can read my books in English-I know it&#8217;s frustrating for you not to be able to <em>get<\/em> them in the format you prefer.<\/p>\n<p>So&#8230; <em>knowing<\/em> that&#8230;I know some readers think that means I should make it happen.\u00a0 Trust me, if it was as simple as that, I&#8217;d make it happen.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s not.<\/p>\n<p>There are reasons for this.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h2>Digital is still <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><em>young<\/em><\/span><\/h2>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>One reason is the plain and simple fact that traditional publishing is still struggling to adjust to digital publishing-I know that sounds like a cop-out, but it&#8217;s not.\u00a0 They are still working to move backlist titles into digital, they still haven&#8217;t figured out the pricing thing, some of them still haven&#8217;t quite figured out that delaying the digital release doesn&#8217;t help anything.\u00a0 Shoot, <em>some<\/em> publishers still don&#8217;t release covers with their ebooks, if I&#8217;m not mistaken.\u00a0 All of this boils down to a need to adjust to digital.\u00a0 Why are they still trying to adjust?<\/p>\n<p>Because digital is still in its infancy.\u00a0 Yes, I know that sounds like another cop-out.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not.\u00a0 Digital publishing has been around on the net since the 90s, sure, but it&#8217;s only proven to traditional publishers that it can actually <em>earn<\/em> money in the past couple of years and publishers are businesses-they have to focus on the money.\u00a0 This <em>isn&#8217;t<\/em> about greed.\u00a0 Yes, they want to <em>make<\/em> money, but if they don&#8217;t focus on <em>earning<\/em> money&#8230; they don&#8217;t stay in business.\u00a0 If they don&#8217;t make smart business decisions, they go under.\u00a0 We&#8217;ve seen publishers do this.\u00a0 So publishing moves <em>slow<\/em>&#8211;think iceberg slow.\u00a0 Until they knew that digital publishing was going to prove to earn out, it probably didn&#8217;t seem wise on their part to focus on it.<\/p>\n<p>I was talking this issue over with my agent, asking her if I was really\u00a0 making it more complicated, if maybe I <em>could<\/em> have more control than I think I do (FYI-she agrees, I don&#8217;t-we need to keep pushing, keep discussing the issue, but I&#8217;m likely not yet in a position to change things-doesn&#8217;t mean we won&#8217;t discuss it with publishers when we are contract, but I don&#8217;t expect much).<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, in regards to our conversation, one thing Irene (my agent) said? \u00a0 &#8220;In some ways publishing is still in the 19th century, struggling to get into the 20th, let alone the 21st.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Yes&#8230; very often things in publishing move <em>slow<\/em>.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h2>Money<\/h2>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Now<\/em> it&#8217;s proven, well proven, that it can earn.\u00a0 Some of you are probably thinking, &#8220;Oh, it proved that <em>years<\/em> ago.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>You might think so.<\/p>\n<p>But let me offer a personal example-remember that I&#8217;ve got a very well established ereader following-simply from EC &amp; Samhain.\u00a0 This past year was the <em>first<\/em> time I&#8217;d ever seen any sort of decent money made from my digital sales via traditional publishing.\u00a0 Now I&#8217;m not a major name, not by any means.\u00a0 And the bigger names were likely earning before this.\u00a0 But big names will <em>always<\/em> show money earlier, even on chancy things.<\/p>\n<p>But if publishers are actually going to get serious about something, they need to know it&#8217;s going to be the same for the majority of their authors, not just their big names.\u00a0 Because it&#8217;s an investment-yeah, <em>this<\/em> is one that will pay off and in a big way, but they needed to know that first.<\/p>\n<p>Seeing as how I&#8217;ve had digital versions of my print books since Hunters Heart &amp; Soul released in 2007 and I&#8217;m just <em>now<\/em> seeing anything decent on digital sales, I&#8217;m not surprised, at all, that publishers are moving slow.\u00a0 And by decent, I&#8217;m not talking 5 or 6 figures.\u00a0 I&#8217;m talking far, far less.\u00a0\u00a0 I&#8217;ll be very transparent-if I recall correctly, <strong>BROKEN<\/strong> barely earned me over $1000 in digital sales and it shocked the hell out of me, too.\u00a0 All the other books were 15 titles here, 5 there, 30 there.\u00a0\u00a0 That&#8217;s barely cappuccino money.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h2>International publishing offices, contracts and all that jazz<\/h2>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.courtneymilan.com\/ramblings\/2010\/10\/31\/cowry-shells-goats-and-geographic-restrictions\/\" target=\"_blank\">Author Courtney Milan<\/a> has a brilliant post up explaining just how complicated this mess can get-if you&#8217;re one of the frustrated ones thinking authors can just wave a wand and change things-or even that all a publisher has to do is wave a wand, please, please, please read it&#8230;she hit on a few things that I hadn&#8217;t even thought of-namely the fact that a number of publishers have foreign arms\/branches and if we just immediately make books available everywhere, (English only), it&#8217;s can cause conflict with the foreign arms of publishers, could even violate their internal contracts, and while this doesn&#8217;t and shouldn&#8217;t concern readers, it does need to concern authors &amp; publishers.<\/p>\n<p>One thing that I keep thinking of-we don&#8217;t <em>really<\/em> want to cut out the foreign arms branches, do we?\u00a0 I mean, it seems to me, as an author, the best way to do it would be to <em>use<\/em> them, not cut them out, but many of them don&#8217;t even seem to have an ebook presence yet-again, that publishing moves slow thing.\u00a0 Again, I know that doesn&#8217;t mean anything to readers, they shouldn&#8217;t and don&#8217;t need to care, but authors and publishers do need to take all of that into consideration.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t want to see a mis-move made that could cause a house of cards to topple.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h2>Publisher&#8217;s Ebook Savvy<\/h2>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>One argument put to me was that a new author was given a modest advance and asked for worldwide English distribution and received it.\u00a0 This is wonderful.\u00a0 However&#8230;one publisher is not like another.\u00a0 Did this publisher already <em>have<\/em> it in place to distribute worldwide?\u00a0 Because there are a few publishers that do this&#8211;I think Harlequin might be one?\u00a0 So if it&#8217;s already standard practice and this new author asked for it, she wasn&#8217;t really <em>given<\/em> anything.\u00a0 It was already hers.\u00a0 She was with a publisher that understand the benefit of having ebooks available for worldwide (English) distribution.\u00a0 So whether or not the publisher &#8216;gets&#8217; that aspect has a lot to do with it.<\/p>\n<p>If it&#8217;s a publisher that&#8217;s still moving slow on that front?\u00a0 You can ask <em>all day long<\/em> and it won&#8217;t do anything.\u00a0 Well, unless you&#8217;re Nora Roberts, Stephen King, Stephanie Meyer&#8230; power names might make more of a difference.\u00a0 But if it&#8217;s a publisher that is ebook resistant?\u00a0 I don&#8217;t know.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h2>Author Control?<\/h2>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There is often (or it seems) this perception that the author has a great deal of control-that she is &#8216;selling her product&#8217; direct to the reader.\u00a0 But by the time the book gets to the reader, it&#8217;s not <em>our<\/em> product anymore.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a team effort-the publisher&#8217;s hands are all over it, in marketing, editing, cover art, etc.\u00a0 We&#8217;ve granted the publisher the rights to sell it and by doing that, we do give up a great deal of control.<\/p>\n<p>While we are negotiating contracts, we can work to keep certain rights (like foreign rights to translate, movie rights to try and sell\/get a movie deal, merchandise, etc).\u00a0 <em>None<\/em> of this works, of course, unless either the author is very savvy or has a very savvy agent and in the end, it boils down to compromise-what the publisher <em>can <\/em>and is <em>willing <\/em>to let us keep. The last two contracts I signed were the first time I&#8217;d even managed to <em>keep<\/em> foreign rights which will hopefully make it easier for me to get my works translated faster. (Hopefully).\u00a0 But before that?\u00a0 I had no luck keeping them and foreign is a simple thing, really.\u00a0 Worldwide English digital distribution?\u00a0 Not so simple.\u00a0 Which means&#8230; if I&#8217;d asked before now?\u00a0 I&#8217;d probably have gotten a &#8230; <em>no<\/em>.\u00a0 If I ask now?\u00a0 Will most likely get an&#8230; <em>We can&#8217;t promise that<\/em> or <em>we aren&#8217;t able to do that right now<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Authors can <em>ask<\/em> for things-we can <em>ask<\/em> for worldwide English distribution.\u00a0 Two things can happen.\u00a0 The overly optimistic one for most publishers right now?\u00a0 We&#8217;re told, <em>Yes!<\/em> I say overly optimistic because I&#8217;m just not convinced there&#8217;s even a <em>framework<\/em>, so to speak, to support worldwide English digital for for all traditional publishers-by framework, I mean everything-including the complexities of foreign arms, etc.<\/p>\n<p>The more realistic answer?\u00a0 <em>We can&#8217;t promise that<\/em>. And unless it&#8217;s in the contract?\u00a0 Not likely to happen, and we can&#8217;t push for it because we have no ground to stand on-the contract is that ground.\u00a0 If it&#8217;s not in the contract?\u00a0 We got nothing.\u00a0 At that point, we decide to either accept it or walk.<\/p>\n<p>Most of us?\u00a0 We&#8217;re accepting it.\u00a0 We fight tooth and nail for every contract we have and if we walk, there&#8217;s no guarantee we&#8217;ll ever get offered another.\u00a0 There are hundreds and hundreds (at least) of other authors waiting to take our spot-if we let it go?\u00a0 It&#8217;s probably gone.\u00a0 (And it may be gone for good.)<\/p>\n<p>We <em>could<\/em> try to go to another house, but not every book\/author is right for every publisher.<\/p>\n<p>Take Harlequin for example.\u00a0 I <em>believe<\/em> Harlequin is one of the more digital savvy publishers.\u00a0 Say I was at contract right now, and Berkley wouldn&#8217;t make me a promise of worldwide distribution for ebooks-so I decided to walk and see if I couldn&#8217;t sell to Harlequin.\u00a0 Well, I&#8217;ve just made the dumbest mistake of my life, because my books don&#8217;t <strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">suit<\/span><em> <\/em><\/strong>Harlequin-they aren&#8217;t going to buy them, they don&#8217;t fit guidelines, etc, etc, etc.<\/p>\n<p>Some of them could maybe work for Carina, I guess, but then for those that prefer to read in print (and that&#8217;s the majority of my readers), I&#8217;ve cut them off, I&#8217;ve taken a gamble that may not even pay off and there&#8217;s no guarantee I&#8217;d even sell to Carina-I would have walked away from a firm offer for the hope of something that may never pan out.\u00a0 Stupid, stupid, stupid-and I don&#8217;t even have any idea at sales or numbers, to complicate the problem.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h2>Choosing one reader over the other<\/h2>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Another argument I saw but didn&#8217;t feel like getting involved in was that we&#8217;re choosing one reader&#8217;s preferences (print) over the other (ebook).\u00a0 No.\u00a0 Sorry&#8230; this isn&#8217;t the case.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a matter of choosing what&#8217;s best for my career (and likely what other authors do as well).<\/p>\n<p>I think there&#8217;s this assumption that if we pushed and pushed, eventually the publisher would give in, and if they don&#8217;t, we should go elsewhere to somebody that will, even if it&#8217;s a small press.\u00a0 I can&#8217;t do that.\u00a0 I have to make the decisions that are going to be the best for my career, what will provide best for my family.<\/p>\n<p>Now if I had a publisher (digital only, print only, both&#8230; <em>I don&#8217;t care<\/em>) who was willing to offer me an advance comparable to what my print publishers offer me, and was going to give me worldwide (English) ebook distribution?\u00a0 Hey, I&#8217;d be all over that idea and ya know&#8230;if there&#8217;s one out there-my agent has this project-<em>email her<\/em>!<\/p>\n<p>But here&#8217;s the thing-my <em>writing is my job<\/em>.\u00a0 And <em>I make my decisions based on what is going to be best for my career<\/em>.\u00a0 Because <em>I have responsibilities<\/em>&#8230; three of them who take priority, and college is creeping ever closer.<\/p>\n<p>How many people out there are willing to say they&#8217;d take a gamble that likely would alter the future of their career?\u00a0 A gamble that could have a detrimental impact on their ability to provide for their family?\u00a0 Because for the typical midlist (or lower-and probably even higher) author&#8230;that&#8217;s what they&#8217;d be doing if they decided to walk away from a contract offer because the publisher wouldn&#8217;t give them worldwide English digital distribution.\u00a0 Mega names can take that risk.\u00a0 But those who aren&#8217;t mega names?\u00a0 We <em>can&#8217;t<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, I can control who I sell the book to, but if it&#8217;s a choice  between the traditional publisher who reaches more readers or the small  presses?\u00a0 I&#8217;m going with traditional publisher, because whether people like the idea or not, I reach <em>more<\/em> readers with traditional publisher.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve got numbers to back that up.<\/p>\n<h2>So what do we do&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>I&#8217;ve said this before on various issues, and I&#8217;ll say it again.\u00a0 <em>Because<\/em> ebooks\/digital publishing is still in its infancy, it&#8217;s going through a period of growth and change.\u00a0 We&#8217;re probably looking at the rocky road of tweens and adolescence now more than infancy, actually, rather than infancy.\u00a0 But digital is still young.\u00a0 It&#8217;s still growing.\u00a0 When something is growing, and changing, it&#8217;s never easy.\u00a0 There is always a period of catching up and adjusting-hell, if you&#8217;re a parent, you <em>know<\/em> this.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not going to tell anybody to be patient, because I <em>can&#8217;t<\/em> be patient myself.<\/p>\n<p><em>But<\/em>&#8230; it will level out. \u00a0 I know this, and I can even say it with relative certainty without asking.\u00a0 Why?\u00a0 Well, because there are <em>readers <\/em>out there.\u00a0 And where there are <em>readers, <\/em>there is a demand for books.\u00a0 And where there is a demand for books?\u00a0 There is money.\u00a0 Yep.\u00a0 It boils down to that.<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s <em>not <\/em>about greed, really.\u00a0 Publishing has to make money for them to acquire books-you like books, right?\u00a0 So you want them to be able to put more out for you.\u00a0 So in convuluted way, you <em>actually <\/em>want publishers to make money.\u00a0 So yep, it boils down to money.\u00a0\u00a0 Publishers <em>know<\/em> there is money out there with worldwide distribution.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a matter of figuring out how to work things like foreign arms branches, the intricacies of author contracts involving foreign rights, adjusting (still) to the massive growth with digital.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a matter of moving forward when the industry has kind of stayed in the same place for so long&#8230;and it&#8217;s <em>moving<\/em> now&#8230;it&#8217;s just moving slow.<\/p>\n<p>One other thing international readers can do?\u00a0 Visit this site-<a href=\"http:\/\/lostbooksales.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/lostbooksales.com\/<\/a> I&#8217;ll point it out to my agent and maybe we can all help spread the word-although I suspect publishers are already well aware of the problems.<\/p>\n<p>So there&#8217;s my two cents, my understanding, and my take on things&#8230; and my explanation on just how little control I do have.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\">Now, if you got comments or questions, ask away&#8230;but please, be respectful.\u00a0 This is my blog and I work pretty hard to keep a friendly place for everybody-rude\/nasty comments go the way of the dodo, as might comments that go along the lines of&#8230; &#8216;well, i can&#8217;t buy so i pirate&#8217;<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Scratch that-normally, I don&#8217;t close comments on anything.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">But I&#8217;m not going to be around much or up to watching comments.\u00a0 Bear in mind, I try to keep my blog a\u00a0 friendly place for my readers and while I rarely have a problem with anything getting out of control, it is my responsibility to keep it a friendly place, and it&#8217;s one I take seriously.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">However, I&#8217;m not up to playing watchdog today.\u00a0 A friend of mine passed away yesterday and I&#8217;ll be at her visitation today, her funeral tomorrow so&#8230; nope.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Not doing this, and to head off the question of <em>&#8220;well, why did you post this today then&#8230;<\/em>&#8221; This post was written sometime late last week.\u00a0 I batch-write my posts, do three or four (or more) several days in advance, sometimes up to two weeks in advance.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not shuffling days around.\u00a0\u00a0 I&#8217;ve had a rough few weeks-this is the second loss I&#8217;ve suffered in as many weeks and I&#8217;m just\u00a0 not up to playing watchdog, and unless I can be certain things remain cordial&#8230;eh, I know I&#8217;m not getting a written guarantee&#8230; comments closed. 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